This one is about failing democracy and the very fundamental tendency toward oligarchy that is one of the underlying causes of its failure. In the interview I discuss Robert Michels statement of the Iron Law his view that democracy always turns into oligarchy over time.

Then I explain how and why the Iron Law can be defeated by a particular type of e-participation facilitating creating a new metalayer of control of the political system countering and defeating its continuous tendency toward oligarchy. In the interview I try to show that the metalayer can create a new hybrid of representative government and continuous direct democracy.

This metalayer can dis-intermediate the role of big money, along with the mass media, and also ensure that bottom-up popular forces can gain continuous mind share and influence among representatives to compete with and overcome the mind share and influence already gained by special, oligarchical interests.